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Anything goes!
From a 2009 blog, "Emsworth"
https://emsworth.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/was-p-g-wodehouse-squeamish-about-sex/
And a list of "Bangable" Male Characters of English Literature. It includes Jeeves, of course, and some unexpected ones!
https://www.theawl.com/2011/04/111-male-characters-of-british-literature-in-order-of-bangability/
https://emsworth.wordpress.com/2009/12/08/was-p-g-wodehouse-squeamish-about-sex/
And a list of "Bangable" Male Characters of English Literature. It includes Jeeves, of course, and some unexpected ones!
https://www.theawl.com/2011/04/111-male-characters-of-british-literature-in-order-of-bangability/
Edited 2019-08-21 00:07 (UTC)
I don't know if it's been recommended here already because I haven't kept perfectly up with all the threads, but in case it hasn't:
One of my favourite insights into gay life during that time is Better Angel by Forman Brown (published under an alias in 1933). It's a great insight on coming to terms with sexuality in a time when almost no information was available, falling in love,unrequited and requited, angst (but not a lot of internalised homophobia and self hatred). It's not sexually explicit but sex explicitly takes place, if that makes sense- you don't have to read between the lines. It mostly takes place in the USA but because NYC and Europe feature a bit I think it's relevant. There is one character who comes across very Wodehousian (except for his sexual openness and fluidity of course).
It's also totally worth reading about the author:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forman_Brown
free public domain text: https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00075711/00001
free public domain audio book: https://librivox.org/better-angel-by-richard-meeker/
One of my favourite insights into gay life during that time is Better Angel by Forman Brown (published under an alias in 1933). It's a great insight on coming to terms with sexuality in a time when almost no information was available, falling in love,unrequited and requited, angst (but not a lot of internalised homophobia and self hatred). It's not sexually explicit but sex explicitly takes place, if that makes sense- you don't have to read between the lines. It mostly takes place in the USA but because NYC and Europe feature a bit I think it's relevant. There is one character who comes across very Wodehousian (except for his sexual openness and fluidity of course).
It's also totally worth reading about the author:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forman_Brown
free public domain text: https://ufdc.ufl.edu/UF00075711/00001
free public domain audio book: https://librivox.org/better-angel-by-richard-meeker/
I canvassed some friends:
Brideshead Revisited - to see how homosexuality can get buried and disappear in fiction written during the period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_Country_(film) This sounds perfect!
A few episodes of "Downton Abbey" set in the 1910s and 1920s is actually supportive of the stereotype of Benevolent Aristocrat, but it has a lot of info. The character of Thomas Barrow, the gay footman, is well done. S3 eps 7 & 8 has the best portrayal of a gay man "outed" in an extremely cruel way. See if you can find them online.
Brideshead Revisited - to see how homosexuality can get buried and disappear in fiction written during the period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Another_Country_(film) This sounds perfect!
A few episodes of "Downton Abbey" set in the 1910s and 1920s is actually supportive of the stereotype of Benevolent Aristocrat, but it has a lot of info. The character of Thomas Barrow, the gay footman, is well done. S3 eps 7 & 8 has the best portrayal of a gay man "outed" in an extremely cruel way. See if you can find them online.
Edited 2019-08-21 14:55 (UTC)
I will post it in the headcanons thread.
People should answer this before and after having read through the kinkiness thread. 😆
It's great that P. G. Wodehouse gave us one story narrated by Jeeves but I think that fans usually write Jeeves' POV way better than Wodehouse did.
Go for it!
Before I started hanging out here my kinks were also vanilla.
Before I started hanging out here my kinks were also vanilla.
It was an experiment on Wodehouse's part. He realized Jeeves could not be as funny as Bertie. That's why there's only one.
Plus, the story where Jeeves is engaged to two women? PGW realized he didn't want lady-killer Jeeves,so that was dropped as well.
Plus, the story where Jeeves is engaged to two women? PGW realized he didn't want lady-killer Jeeves,so that was dropped as well.
In which story was Jeeves engaged to two women?
Jeeves In The Springtime.
I shall read that. Thanks!
The story can also be found in "The Inimitable Jeeves" chapters "Jeeves Exerts the Old Cerebellum" and "No Wedding Bells for Bingo".
Not sure if complicated
or myself just stupid
🤔
or myself just stupid
🤔
About the books and stories... I think I will never get the big picture. I struggle with the basic things like the titles of the stories, where to find them, the names of the books and in what order to read them. I tried to google it but the results confused me. 😕
My apologies if the additional info was confusing.
It is rather confusing because of the short stories and the short story collections. And let's not forget about the alternate titles of the short stories and the different book titles depending on UK or US version. One may easily end up with multiples.
If you don't mind breaking your anonymity, you can PM me with your email address and I'll send you some e-books. Also, for reference:
https://honoriaplum.wordpress.com/2017/01/22/p-g-wodehouse-reading-list-the-jeeves-and-wooster-stories/
Some of the books have different American/UK titles which can also be confusing.
https://honoriaplum.wordpress.com/2017/01/22/p-g-wodehouse-reading-list-the-jeeves-and-wooster-stories/
Some of the books have different American/UK titles which can also be confusing.
Thanks so much! 🙂 That's a very helpful link. And thanks for the offer but I can buy the books online. I only needed a list with information that's easy to understand.
To get a better understanding of Jeeves I'm reading Spinoza's 'The Ethics'. I suppose I'm taking things too seriously.
Believe it or not, you're not the first. I commend your determination! How goes it?
Impressive! Please do report back your new insight into Jeeves's mind.
I shall do that.
I'm not very far into the book yet. I only read Part I Concerning God. Spinoza throws tons of definitions, propositions, correlations and Q.E.D.s at the reader. It's certainly not light reading and I've never read anything like that before but don't think it's too difficult to understand. I expected it to be way more complicated or confusing. In my opinion it's only very dry. The titels of the subsequent parts however sound rather promising and potentially relevant to Jeeves.
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