Mod Post: Some Additional Rules

[cuddyclothes]

As delighted as your mod is with how give_satisfaction is going, there are some topics that simply are not in our purview. While dark and disturbing material is fine, some recent prompts have crossed the line.

This prompt, for instance: (trigger warning : suicide) Bertie tries to kill himself but fails, it's Jeeves that found and stopped him. H/C angst.
(I know pretty dark sorry)

give_satisfaction  is not the place for this prompt. If they are to be taken seriously, and might be triggering, then suicide, rape, murder and excessive violence are not acceptable for prompts. Part of the fun of a kink meme community is that it is a safe space.

Please take those prompts toindeedsir , for their plot bunny farms. As far as I know, prompts can also be made there anonymously.

Thanks.


ETA: In light of the discussion there has been a poll posted. Please vote and comment!

Comments

[erinptah]

So, look, I don't want to jump down your throats here, but...

1) The rules say "no underage" and "no RPF", but nothing about suicide, rape, murder, or violence being "not acceptable."

2) Literally anything can be triggering, because anything can be involved in a traumatic incident. For some people, fic about consensual sex is triggering. Other real triggers include tooth-brushing, couch cushions, and Jello. If your definition of "safe space" is "only fic that contains no triggering content for anyone," that's an impossible standard.

3) ...you know something else that could be triggering? For a reader who has struggled with suicidal urges (no idea if that includes the prompt OP, but it probably includes at least a few readers of this community) to be told, suddenly and out of nowhere, that "a story about someone like you being rescued and comforted" is "not appropriate."

4) Part of the fun of a kink meme is that it's a safe space...for people to explore things in fiction without being shamed. Even if those things are sexy, kinky, weird, or dark.

I get that you want to make it easy for people to avoid fics that will be bad for them -- but a better way to do that is by giving people the tools to manage and control their own reading experience, not by trying to control it for them. (Note that loss of control is a big factor in PTSD! And getting a sense of control back is a big part of healing.)

What I mean is, start requiring warnings. And not a general "warn for triggering content," because that's impossible (see point 2). Come up with a clear, specific list of topics that need to be warned for. People whose triggers are on the list will find them refreshingly easy to avoid, and people with non-listed triggers won't be dangerously misled into thinking they're covered.

[(Anonymous)]

it’s a complex issue and I think everyone is going to feel differently about it. That’s okay. It’s a good thing that we’re talking about it, right? if I may suggest something, maybe there could be a separate post for prompts that involve darker subjects? that way prompters still feel free to post whatever they want without being judged (while following the rules of course), but people who prefer not to see darker subjects can simply avoid the post and have a comfortable/safe experience.

[(Anonymous)]

These new rules are a pretty arbitrary line to try to draw, especially banning rape when it's one of the most common kinks and there have been plenty of prompts and fills with some degree of dub/non-con.

The banned prompt isn't asking to fetishize suicide or portray it in a positive light, it's just H/C centered on an interrupted suicide attempt. Treating suicide as a taboo topic is harmful in itself, it perpetuates stigma.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree with everything that’s being said here, but I also don’t want to be too hard on the mods. They’re doing their best, trying to make the kinkmeme fun and safe for everyone. So while I do encourage them to reconsider, I also want them to know that I realize being a mod is tricky!